Curse

shoyon456 · Jul 16, 2008, 09:07 PM // 21:07

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Originally Posted by Age

Ok.There weren't that many who became Dervishes most became Warriors maybe becasue they were more wealthier and those that were Dervishes weren't so a sort of cheap Warrior.It is a lot like some of the classes in MTW.

From what I can make out of your post. You think that there was a split between those who became warriors and dervishes in history? And that those who became dervish were cheap? LOL

Ok, did you actually read those links? Dervish mystics are islamic holy people, who perform their spinning dances to seek divinity. Thus the tie to god forms in the game. Yes they are generally poor, not asking for handouts but living in poverty to escape the selfishness money brings. They are not fighters at all if you had even bothered to read those links.

Warriors are found throughout history in various forms, and all societies have some sort.

There is no split between the two, in the game and in real life. Both are completely different things.

Brian the Gladiator · Jul 16, 2008, 09:26 PM // 21:26

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Originally Posted by Lady Raenef

Dervishes mainly consisted of this: avatar, mystic regeneration, vital boon.

If you really want to use a scythe, go R/D. Those pack damage to me, for some reason or another. I fear them more than an actual dervish.

Dude... you are so bad. The reason why those R/D are scary is because they aren't using avatar, mystic regen, and vital boon... and still trying to do damage at the same time. The R/D bar has like, upwards of 5 attack skills coupled with 2 block stances for defense... A Wounding Strike + Conjure Derv or a Lyssa Derv can out damage a R/D any day... but you will sacrifice the defensive stances...

My suggestion: stop using large amounts of Earth Prayers and Mysticism and start using Scythe Mastery.

evilseabass · Jul 16, 2008, 10:02 PM // 22:02

Personally, I would choose to play a warrior just so I'm not limited to wearing dresses in combat...

Marverick · Jul 16, 2008, 10:29 PM // 22:29

Derv for PvE because 100 DPS per target, up to 3 targets, owns everything

War for PvP because KD's own everything

makosi · Jul 16, 2008, 10:48 PM // 22:48

Dervishes deal mad damage in PvE. I run Avatar of Melandru with Eternal Aura, Aura of Holy Might, Wearying Strike, Chilling Victory, Attacker's Insight and Zealous Sweep. It steamrolls anything.

DSlash is meh in comparison.

Clarissa F · Jul 17, 2008, 01:59 AM // 01:59

I like dervishes. They give my mesmer energy, and their big hits make them kill themselves easier.

In PvE, with God mode and Melandru/Lyssa/Dwayna, it depends on your personal style and taste. Play them both and make your own decision.

Makosi: look up "godmode d/slasher" and compare that to the avatars. A lot closer than you think.

Lady Raenef · Jul 17, 2008, 06:24 AM // 06:24

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Originally Posted by Brian the Gladiator

Dude... you are so bad. The reason why those R/D are scary is because they aren't using avatar, mystic regen, and vital boon... the rest is mumbled garbage.

I simply said that most dervishes you see, have the same three skills. I also said, that a R/D is more to fear, because they pack more damage. Do I fear them? No. They're still crappy. Rangers should be using a bow, not a scythe.

Mr. Undisclosed · Jul 17, 2008, 07:25 AM // 07:25

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Originally Posted by Lady Raenef

I simply said that most dervishes you see, have the same three skills. I also said, that a R/D is more to fear, because they pack more damage. Do I fear them? No. They're still crappy. Rangers should be using a bow, not a scythe.

This post is /fail on so many levels.

Sirius-NZ · Jul 17, 2008, 07:51 AM // 07:51

The downtime dervishes spend casting enchantments is negligible, for the record. Unfortunately DSlash has the little issue of what happens when FGJ wears off (which it does, even with enduring harmony) - in PvE, avatars basically don't.

faraaz · Jul 17, 2008, 08:00 AM // 08:00

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Originally Posted by Sirius-NZ

The downtime dervishes spend casting enchantments is negligible, for the record.

Disagree! My Canthan Vanquisher Dervish wasted all his time casting stuff while the things I actually wanted to kill proceeded to get bombed into smithereens by my Hero/Henches. It isnt crippling, by any means but it is also certainly NOT negligible. Also, having to recast everything every 20-25 seconds is a first class pain in the butt. I played my Dervish a lot (around 1000 hours, KoaBD r1 & r10 Asura, Norn & Delver) but to be honest, I hate my Dervish now...so much so that having to use enchants actively in a fight pisses me off. >.<

GourangaPizza · Jul 17, 2008, 10:26 AM // 10:26

^I think you are using the wrong enchantments. The only enchantment I cast pre-battle is [Watchful Intervention], it saves my ass lots of times and preserve my survivor title. The other enchantments I used are often 3/4 cast PBAOE enchantments like [Aura of Holy Might] and [Heart of Fury].

I may not be correct on this one but dervish's and warrior's weaknesses compliments each other. Warrior shines in areas with anti-enchantments or e-denial, it flops pretty badly in adrenaline-denial places (e.g. Soothing Images X_X). Vice-versa applies to dervish.

NeHoMaR · Jul 17, 2008, 12:39 PM // 12:39

Hey Shiishii Momo, I have the BEST tip for you: Play the one you enjoy MORE!

psykick5 · Jul 17, 2008, 08:42 PM // 20:42

this is an interesting thread. But come on everyone, warrior is better. who cares if u get raped in pvp by them? they have time to cast their enchants, no enchants, and that derv is down in a matter of seconds. Plus, he has saying that warriors have Low versatility/adaptability and a ???LEARNING CURVE??? When i was playing my derv, i couldnt figure out anything til i got to Kourna. Dervs are way harder to learn about and learn how to use than warriors. I get raped by dervishes in RA and TA with their forms all the time, but warrior is just better. not for just the sheer number of skills, but people, which armor looks cooler??? (warrior) Which prof has more skills?? (warrior) which doesnt cast pussy enchantments to win?? (warrior) which has been the tank of guildwars since 2005?? (warrior). Its an easy answer people. (warrior)

Tyla · Jul 17, 2008, 08:58 PM // 20:58

Your reasoning is quite bad.

Tank 'n' Spank is bad.
Enchantments can be quite strong, even if the Warrior doesn't depend on them.
Armour is based on preference.

psykick5 · Jul 17, 2008, 09:05 PM // 21:05

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Originally Posted by Tyla

Your reasoning is quite bad.

Tank 'n' Spank is bad.
Enchantments can be quite strong, even if the Warrior doesn't depend on them.
Armour is based on preference.

You can say the reasoning is bad, but myself and many other people just hate casting enchantments before the battle every single time. Of course ive used my derv to tackle situations my warrior coulnt handle, but the enchantments just get to you, always having to recast them. Plus only having a choice of dresses is not that great...

Snow Bunny · Jul 17, 2008, 09:13 PM // 21:13

What are you all casting that takes so much time??????

You cast eternal aura, maybe aura of holy might, maybe heart of fury, and your avatar.

I mean, really, you're not casting that often. It takes about 4-4.5 seconds to put everything up, assuming you're throwing all of that up.

You should not be casting Mystic Regeneration, Vital Boon, or anything else of the sort.

Everything on your bar should be geared towards annihilating pve.

Tyla · Jul 17, 2008, 09:16 PM // 21:16

OMIGOD I HAVE TO CAST ENCHANTMENTS EVERY 20 SECONDS!!!

It's not even that to be honest, Snow. With just Attacker's Insight and Heart of Fury it's a mere 1 second discounting aftercast.

joshuarodger · Jul 17, 2008, 09:23 PM // 21:23

don't tell me you're forgetting AoHM tyla. in PvE, that is. that makes it almost 2 whole seconds altogether.

Marverick · Jul 17, 2008, 10:47 PM // 22:47

You have what, 2 enchantments that need to be refreshed every 25-30 seconds?

Another enchantment and avatar that need to be refreshed every 70-80 seconds?

Is that too much for you? Is that why you prefer to play warriors? That must be the reason why everyone plays warriors in this game... every time I go to form a group I get 3-4 wammos or wammes and it's so ridiculously annoying because warriors are so limited in their uses in PvE; in fact, they don't really have any uses that surpass other professions.

obsidian ectoplasm · Jul 17, 2008, 11:01 PM // 23:01

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Originally Posted by makosi

Dervishes deal mad damage in PvE.

They do made damage in PVP as well....